Three Classic Planets Will Be Seen Again In The Star Wars Sequel Trilogy!

It seems like we’ve been in a dry spell as far as The Last Jedi news goes, recent descriptions of sizzle reel footage and our own report about scenes included in the teaser notwithstanding. However, we at Star Wars News Net would like to make the wait for Celebration a little more bearable by relaying a bit of information that we’ve heard about: a source told us that we may very well be returning to a trio of planets from the previous movies in Star Wars Episode VIII and/or Star Wars Episode IX. In addition, we’ll also talk a bit about the plot-important element related to these three planets that we know of, which also features a possible development concerning a mythic character in the setting.

 

 

Alright, since this is a bit of a speculative piece in addition to being a scoop, I want to make sure the information here is presented as clearly as possible. As such, what I was explicitly told will be bolded and colored gold while stuff that what I’m just speculating on based on this same information may not be. In other words, I can tell you that these planets likely will be in the next two movies, but I can’t tell you how they’re going to fit in because that part isn’t completely clear right now. I would also like to note that these were explicitly described as being shown over the course of the Sequel Trilogy, so don’t expect all three to show up in The Last Jedi. It also goes without saying that this will touch upon potential spoilers, so the faint of heart shouldn’t look past this point. (Oh, and don’t go around saying “PLANET X IS IN THE NEXT STAR WARS!” on social media so as to not ruin it for anyone else – please leave the headline as-is if you share this story.)

 

For starters, I am of the personal belief that all three (or at least the first two) planets are going to be shown via another Forceback or over the course of multiple Forcebacks. This is just the theory that I am operating on, but I’m not 100% sold on it myself. The reason for this will be made apparent as I discuss a general plot development that I learned about in conjunction to these three worlds and what they have in common. And even still, it’s just as likely that we’ll see any or all of these planets in the “present”. To cut to the chese, the three returning planets are Tatooine, Endor, and Mustafar, although we might not see them in that exact order. So now that you know the three planets, I’m going to talk a little about each one individually, I’m going to go into detail on why they were chosen – which is something that may very well spoil the backstory of the Sequel Trilogy. (I’ll put up another warning when we get there.)

 

 

Tatooine

 

 

The planet that is farthest from the bright center of the Universe is, ironically, in focus once again. That’s right – we’ll be headed back to Tatooine at some point in the Sequel Trilogy. In fact, we may have actually seen it in The Force Awakens without realizing it – to my understanding, the desert world with Twin Suns may be the home of Luke Skywalker’s Jedi Temple which we saw burning down in the Forceback.

 

 

To some degree, it would make sense that Luke would return here to train a new generation – crime took a nosedive after Jabba’s death, he already lived on the planet for much of his life, Obi-Wan probably left a few things of note behind, and most importantly, it’s the middle of nowhere in planetary form, making it the perfect place for a small group like the Jedi to rebuild themselves. And as such, it would also be a place of sentimental importance to Ben Solo – since not only did his uncle and namesake live on the planet, but so did his grandfather. Also worth mentioning is that the rock formation seen behind R2-D2 in The Force Awakens, while irregular, is not too dissimilar to the odd formations seen in Attack Of The Clones.

 

 

But again, this is my personal theory – I’d like to reiterate that I’m not 100% sure that my guess on how Tatooine fits into the next two movies is accurate. I just know that Tatooine will be in at least one of the next two movies. I’m not sure if the scene featuring the desert world will be part of another Forceback, but it absolutely will be if I’m right about Luke’s Jedi Temple being there.

 

 

Endor

 

 

Endor is the second of our three stops. (Yeah, it’s a moon and not a planet. Close enough.) Now I can say that I have a much clearer idea about where the other two planets are going to fit in than the first – they’re both tied to Kylo Ren’s personal journey revolving around a certain Darth. You see, as the The Force Awakens already showed us, Kylo Ren has a bit of an unhealthy obsession with his granddad. But we’re about to learn more on that particular element to Kylo Ren’s personality – he’s seeking kinship with the role model he’s trying to emulate, and as such, he’s looking for artifacts related to his grandfather and to the Sith in general. This most likely explains why he’s incompletely trained in spite of having served Snoke for at least half a decade or so – due to his power, he felt as though pursuing his own quest in his spare time was more important than reaching his full potential as a Force user.

 

 

When I heard about Endor in particular, I personally speculated that we’d go back to Endor to see Kylo Ren recover his grandfather’s melted helmet from the funeral pyre that Luke set (possibly after killing a few Ewoks with his lightsaber claymore), but that’s when I remembered canonical information presented in the Aftermath series and Bloodline. Right after Darth Vader died, a mysterious cult known as the Acolytes of the Beyond appeared and purchased Sith artifacts. Later, it turned out that many Imperial artifacts – including those related to Darth Vader and Emperor Palpatine – were considered priceless and were sought-after by many parties, including – presumably – those who deified the Force. So as it turns out, it seems likely that someone will already have gotten word about the melted armor of the Dark Lord of the Sith and sold it off to Kylo Ren – so a visit to there will probably be based around something else entirely, though that something is still going to involve Kylo Ren and Darth Vader. Perhaps there’s a Sith artifact hidden on the forest moon that we never got to see.

Speaking of Darth Vader…

 

 

Mustafar

 

 

Surprise! It’s not an Original Trilogy planet, but a Prequel Trilogy planet. (So much for the whole “Disney is going to pretend the Prequels never happened in the Sequels” thing.) If everything pans out, then Mustafar is the last planet on this list that we will see somewhere in the Sequel Trilogy.

 

People have often speculated that Lucasfilm is trying to do what the Marvel Cinematic Universe – a fellow Disney mega-franchise – has done, and use one movie to make a plot connection to a future movie as a means to build up momentum and interest for another movie. That’s clearly not the case as far as we can tell (since Star Wars is a singular brand, unlike Marvel, and that whole “Han Solo will show up in Rogue One” rumor – which was more of a misguided inference more than anything – didn’t pan out at all), and Lucasfilm is generally bringing existing elements into the fray as they fit instead of trying to force crossovers. With that in mind, it seems as though this is going to be the closest thing that they’ve done toward making an MCU-type connection – Darth Vader’s castle, introduced in Rogue One, will be revisited years after the death of the man who had it built.

 

Darth Vader's Castle On Mustafar

 

Now, it’d be really neat if we get another major fight scene on this planet – *cough* lightstaber duel *cough* – but for now, we can look forward to a closer look at Darth Vader’s own little Minas Morgul. While it’s possible that Luke might have visited the place at some point, I can tell you that the time that will be spent on Mustafar will have a lot to do with Kylo Ren. Whether he set up shop there or if he simply visits the place from time to time is not clear at this moment.

 

These choices might seem a little random at first. You might ask yourself – why are we going to see these three planets instead of several others, like Jakku and Coruscant? Well, I can’t tell you that those planets won’t reappear in the movies – Tatooine, Endor, and Mustafar are just the only three returning worlds that I know about. Still, the reasoning behind the inclusion of these three planets is where the really interesting stuff comes in.

 

 

What Ties These Planets Together

 

Kylo Ren and Darth Vader. That’s the short version of the explanation, and it’s also the most obvious. But as it turns out, there’s something else that the three worlds – or at least the first two – have in common: Luke Skywalker. (While Luke hasn’t canonically visited Mustafar as of yet, that very likely could have changed between Return Of The Jedi and The Force Awakens, or possibly even during the Original Trilogy.) Kylo Ren’s Galaxy-spanning quest may be to get in touch with the Dark Side, but Luke also had a similar one which we were already told about by Han Solo in The Force Awakens, and it seems as though these three planets – or most of them – may have been a part of that very backstory. Extended from this line of thinking, the long version of the explanation is a bit of a doozy…

 

Alright, so here’s a big plot element that we consider a pretty big spoiler for the overall direction of the Sequel Trilogy’s central themes. However, it only concerns the backstory of the Sequel Trilogy, and as such may either be a big reveal or a small part of the overall story depending on how the narrative of The Last Jedi plays out. If you want to avoid learning about a key element to Luke and Ben’s pasts before the opening night of Episode VIII, then this is your last chance to turn back.

 

 

While Kylo Ren’s obsession with the Sith and the Dark Side lead him back to places important to dear old grandpappy Vader – the places where he was raised, where he was reborn in fire, and where he was cremated – but there’s apparently an interesting parallel between him and his former master that is going on over the course of their respective character arcs. Luke understandably had a crisis of faith over what happened with his nephew and his other students – it appears that in addition to the loss of his life’s work and the betrayal of a loved one, something he came across relating to the Jedi puts into question everything he thought he knew about the ways of the Force. It sounds as though many of the artifacts he’s rediscovered are forgeries or have strayed so far from the original intent of the Jedi that they might as well not be Jedi artifacts at all. He’s even questioning the teachings of Obi-Wan, Yoda, and Anakin, and is feeling as though the Jedi path he’s followed has ultimately left his life in ruins. My personal guess is that Ben Solo learning about his true heritage and that his family lied to him wasn’t the last straw that turned him into a murderous psychopath (even if it did play a role in that descent) – whatever awful secrets that Luke discovered (which subsequently led to his spiritual crisis) could indeed be what caused Ben to turn his back on the Jedi, join the Knights of Ren, and embrace Snoke’s teachings.

 

But in spite of the personal tragedy and his disillusionment with the Jedi way as he was taught, Luke Skywalker is no quitter – he believes in the idea of the Jedi Order, but he also thinks that the way he learned was deeply flawed (which the Prequel Trilogy clearly demonstrated) and is in need of fixing, and recovering knowledge about the practices and philosophy of the ancient Jedi is the way to go about restoring the Order. Luke didn’t abandon the Galaxy or his duty as a Jedi, he just wanted a better understanding of what it truly means to carry this tremendous responsibility. The Jedi Order that collapsed shortly before his birth appears to have been a more morally-ambiguous ideology than previously realized, and the views its adherents held led to their own downfall – by carrying forward a more pure version of the faith closer to the vision of the original Jedi, Luke believes that he can be successful in raising a new generation of Jedi where he had once failed. Perhaps this is why he looks at Rey with such sorrow and understanding at the end of The Force Awakens instead of with joy and relief – the Galaxy is in need of new Jedi, but he’s not completely sure what being a Jedi means now, much less how to teach someone this new path. Luke truly is the last of the old Jedi – and hopefully, the first of the new if he and Rey can find a way to bring balance to the Force.

 

One of George Lucas’s big themes for the Sequel Trilogy as he originally envisioned it back in the 1980s was that the story would have to deal with morally-ambiguous situations and discerning between what’s truly right and wrong. Presuming that they’re still looking at his treatments for inspiration, this sounds like the crux of Luke’s character arc going forward – he’s going to have to confront the mistakes of the past (including his own), fix them as a teacher, and make sure that the new generation and those that follow them rights the wrongs that plagued the Old Jedi Order as it strayed from its original goals. Indeed, the poem presented at the beginning of the novelization of The Force Awakens would indicate such a story arc:

 

“First comes the day
Then comes the night.
After the darkness
Shines through the light.
The difference, they say,
Is only made right
By the resolving of gray
Through refined Jedi sight.”
Journal of the Whills, 7:477

 

The day and the night are obviously the ages of the Republic and Empire, and that the light will eventually triumph over the darkness years that follow the Empire’s rise is a given. However, it’s not said that the darkness ended with the Empire’s defeat, just that it will come one day. Perhaps, then, the darkness will only end when the First Order are defeated and the new Jedi – the true Jedi – are in place. But all of this revolves around Luke deciding what he needs to do to fix the most unpleasant aspects plaguing the faith before going forward – and that alone might be as great a challenge as defeating Snoke.

 

In any case, we’ll get a lot more information about The Last Jedi at Celebration in less than a month. Hopefully, this news on the cinematic return of Tatooine, Endor, and Mustafar – along with story details about the paths that Kylo Ren and Luke Skywalker have followed between their falling out – will help tide you over for now.

 

 

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Grant has been a fan of Star Wars for as long as he can remember, having seen every movie on the big screen. When he’s not hard at work with his college studies, he keeps himself busy by reporting on all kinds of Star Wars news for SWNN and general movie news on the sister site, Movie News Net. He served as a frequent commentator on SWNN’s The Resistance Broadcast.

Grant Davis (Pomojema)

Grant has been a fan of Star Wars for as long as he can remember, having seen every movie on the big screen. When he’s not hard at work with his college studies, he keeps himself busy by reporting on all kinds of Star Wars news for SWNN and general movie news on the sister site, Movie News Net. He served as a frequent commentator on SWNN’s The Resistance Broadcast.

263 thoughts on “Three Classic Planets Will Be Seen Again In The Star Wars Sequel Trilogy!

  • March 21, 2017 at 9:18 pm
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    “Forceback” seems like an exceedingly unnecessary term when it’s pretty clear that force visions are multi/omni-directional. I get it though.

    • March 21, 2017 at 9:27 pm
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      It’s the terminology that J. J. Abrams went with.

      – Pomojema

    • March 21, 2017 at 9:54 pm
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      “Through the Force, things you will see. Other places. The future…the past. Old friends long gone.”

  • March 21, 2017 at 9:59 pm
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    Ooh, this sounds good. Looks like Kylo’s going on a spiritual journey while Luke looks for ancient Force secrets. I’m liking Lucasfilm’s recent focus on old artifacts and ancient Jedi and Sith history. Could it be the first step in reintroducing the Old Republic Era/Darth Revan?

    • March 21, 2017 at 10:54 pm
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      Wow if that’s what they’re going for…you just made me more excited for the rest of the ST. Kylo going on a spiritual journey for the dark side would be different and exciting to see.

  • March 21, 2017 at 10:16 pm
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    I hope this is true, there’s really no better way to cement the connection between the worlds of the original saga and the sequel trilogy. I’m still holding out for Coruscant and Korriban/Moraband, though; no planets would make me happier.

    • March 21, 2017 at 10:49 pm
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      Agreed! Those are top on my wishlist as well as a return to Mustifar for vader’s castle

    • March 21, 2017 at 10:55 pm
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      I think to subtly cement the prequels is to have artifacts of clone wars battles (eg clone helmets or droid part lying around). I noticed then when on Felucia in the Force Unleashed there would be clone helmets just lying in the dirt.

      I find it hard to believe that is around 50 years and entire galaxy (hundreds if not thousands of planets) was cleaned up of the droid/clone pieces.

  • March 21, 2017 at 10:25 pm
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    The Sequel Trilogy’s number one rule is to keep it simple (as the OT was BTW) to make it commercially successful. I doubt they will go back to the the “balance to the force” themes of the prequels.

    • March 21, 2017 at 10:28 pm
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      BTW, I’ve always wondered whom Han was referring to when he mentioned “those who knew Luke best” saying that he went looking for the first Jedi temple. I can’t imagine anyone who would know Luke better than Leia and she din’t know where he was or what he was searching, or did she ?

      • March 22, 2017 at 4:04 am
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        Luke kind of distanced himself from his family once he committed to training Jedi, but kept in contact with them on occasion. He didn’t just up and quit until Ben screwed everybody over.

        But up until that point, Luke was making new allies on his quest – people who would understand the nature of the Force. And that’s who Han was talking about. Han knows of the Force after seeing what his son was capable of, but he never had the kind of understanding that Luke or Leia did – which makes sense.

        – Pomojema

    • March 21, 2017 at 10:47 pm
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      One of the first lines of the sequel trilogy is “without the jedi there can be no balance”, so i think balancing the force will be a major theme, but I do think it will be simpler in the sense that it will be less about prophecies, chosen ones and special people and more about ordinary people standing for what is good.

      • March 22, 2017 at 12:20 am
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        Hopefully. I found the Chosen One plot of the prequels to be way too cliche.

        • March 22, 2017 at 12:24 am
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          Everyman finding a magic sword and getting trained by a wizard. Star Wars is full of clichés.

          • March 22, 2017 at 12:26 am
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            Yeah, but they were done well. A generic and poorly-defined Chosen One Prophecy that we never even get to READ is not the same as a simple and timeless fantasy archetype.

          • March 22, 2017 at 12:41 am
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            Well that is your opinion. Still a cliche.

          • March 22, 2017 at 4:48 am
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            The Chosen One thing coming along in the same month as The Matrix having a Chosen One (and doing it better) proves his point.

          • March 22, 2017 at 2:50 pm
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            But that’s because the PT went with the nazi-like concept of “chosen one”, where you are CO by blood, while “The Matrix” went for “you have to BECOME the Chosen One”.
            Now, this MAY have something to do with “The Matrix” having actual writers and director, as opposed to the PT having… nothing, really (Lucas is a great producer and business man, but a writer/director he is not).

          • March 22, 2017 at 3:54 pm
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            Regardless of why, it was something that didn’t really click and shows how a cliche can be good if executed well, as the cliches of the OT were.

            Just b/c it is a cliche doesn’t make it bad.

    • March 22, 2017 at 12:07 am
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      I was thinking this while reading all that…this is way too complicated for the average person to enjoy.

    • March 22, 2017 at 1:32 am
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      ”Balance of the force” is mentioned in TFA.

      • March 22, 2017 at 4:00 am
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        Briefly, but it’s not used in the same context that it was used in regards to the Prophecy. It’s a matter of “making things right after a few years of it going horribly wrong” as opposed to “little Annie will save us”, in a manner of speaking.

        – Pomojema

        • March 22, 2017 at 4:52 am
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          I disagree. It was the same context. Force is still not in balance. According to Church of force, with the new Jedi there will be a balance. Blance of the force is an integral part of the prophecy.

  • March 21, 2017 at 10:58 pm
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    Naboo would be great to see. I understand the importance of luke/kylo/rey looking into Vaders history, but it would be nice to explore their perception of Padme (especillay since it was Anakins love for her that resuted in Vader.).

    • March 21, 2017 at 11:04 pm
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      I can see Kylo visit to explore more of his grandfather’s weakness..sentiment. But while he is there he can feel the planet is filled with the dark side as well because it is of course the birthplace of the emperor.

      • March 22, 2017 at 2:07 pm
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        I don’t understand how you reason that makes the planet evil??

        • March 22, 2017 at 2:55 pm
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          Any place that brought Jar Jar in to existence is definitely evil!

          • March 22, 2017 at 8:37 pm
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            Fair enough.

        • March 22, 2017 at 5:30 pm
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          I know he had something to hide considering he tried destroying the planet to rid the evidence. (Comics) so I’m assuming there has to be some lingering dark side crap goin on there. And plus Leia had a cool moment where she actually went to the hanger where Maul, Qui Gon and Obi Wan dueled and she felt the presence of the dark side.

          • March 22, 2017 at 8:34 pm
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            Fair enough. I forgot about the attempted scourge of Naboo. It does stand to reason he was up to something at some point in time being that was Sheev’s home, for sure.

  • March 21, 2017 at 11:07 pm
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    why Endor? the others are good but Endor? why not Caruscant?

    • March 21, 2017 at 11:34 pm
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      maybe Vader/Anikins force ghost is there, Luke goes back for chat

      • March 22, 2017 at 1:13 am
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        sure

      • March 22, 2017 at 5:36 am
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        Why would a force ghost be attached to one place?

        • March 22, 2017 at 2:08 pm
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          We know it isn’t.

    • March 22, 2017 at 12:18 am
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      Coruscant is where the old Jedi Temple used to be, so Luke might want to find a new place to set up shop as a symbol of change. Just like how the New Republic moved to the Hosnian System.

    • March 22, 2017 at 1:27 am
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      Coruscant was a capital. I really want to see Coruscant again, and not only in flashback. I really like that futuristic city look of Coruscant. It reminds me to Blade Runner movie. Also we really need to see more cities in future Star Wars movies.

    • March 22, 2017 at 2:21 am
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      I think the clues are right in front of everyone in the Art of TFA book- wreckage of the Death Star II containing something of value and/or the lingering spirit of Anakin, both from earlier iterations of the script. Lucasfilm has a long history of never letting any concept go to waste.

      • March 22, 2017 at 2:09 pm
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        Yeah, there was a cool concept image that showed Palpatine’s tower resting on the bottom of a lake in Endor that I thought was incredible.

  • March 21, 2017 at 11:20 pm
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    Was that really Luke’s “temple” in the Forceback? I thought Pablo Hidalgo debunked that.

    • March 22, 2017 at 3:58 am
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      I think he debunked the misconception that it was a “Jedi Academy”… Because that’s not the terminology that they’d used.

      Leaked documents suggest that the place that is burning is a Jedi Temple.

      – Pomojema

  • March 21, 2017 at 11:31 pm
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    Throw in Felucia to piss some PT haters

    • March 22, 2017 at 12:11 am
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      But make it a large set with very little green screen to show PT defenders how it should’ve been done. Then everyone will be equally pissed off.

    • March 22, 2017 at 1:12 am
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      Ah yes, the totally believable and not at all jarring collection of plastic flowers that looks like a Tim Burton Alice in Wonderland set piece.

      • March 22, 2017 at 7:15 pm
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        Yep, because The Force, 7 feet furry creatures that use bowcasters and solid light in the form a saber are totally believable…

        • March 23, 2017 at 6:58 am
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          We’re talking aesthetics, not lore, but I see where you’re coming from.

    • March 22, 2017 at 1:23 am
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      I hope that we will see Felucia again. Star Wars planet that truly looks like alien planet and not copy paste of Earth.

      • March 22, 2017 at 2:08 am
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        Yeah, I hate all those Star Wars planets with earth-like environments.

        *re-watches the OT*

        Shit.

        • March 22, 2017 at 2:29 am
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          OT had Cloud City and Asteroid with huge worm like creature. Nothing Earth-like there.
          OT was first, soo Earth-like planets there were something new. Now Earth-like planets are not new and I want something original.

          • March 22, 2017 at 2:41 am
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            “Earth-like planets there were something new” – I’m sorry, in what world are you living, exactly? Because, if I am not mistaken (spoilers: I am not) sci-fi movies had “earth-like planets” for a good… oh, 40 to 50 years, before SW even came out.

          • March 22, 2017 at 3:11 am
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            Earth also had Earth-like environments, lol.

          • March 22, 2017 at 2:41 pm
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            IKR? I mean, Earth is so boring and, like..unoriginal… Plus, it’s full of sand…and you know what they say, about sand – it’s coarse and rough and it ge—

            oh, fuck it 😀

          • March 22, 2017 at 4:29 am
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            They were new for Star Wars. Now they are not. Now they are boring, because Tatooine is no longer unique, Hoth is no longer unique because in new movies every planet is starting to look the same. In OT and PT every planet looked unique. Just one scene was enough to identify the planet. Now because of TFA and RO1 that is no longer possible. It is a time to bring unique looking planets that really look like planet other than Earth.

        • March 22, 2017 at 7:19 am
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          Lmaooooo

      • March 22, 2017 at 4:21 am
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        Star Wars is supposed to look earth-like. That’s what makes it gritty and believable, real actors walking through the desert or the woods or the snow. It’s not supposed to be a fakey, goofball Tim Burton fantasy land.

        • March 22, 2017 at 4:39 am
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          There is nothing believable in alien planets that look like Earth copies. That is scientifically totally impossible and inaccurate, therefore unbelievable and unconvincing.

          Star Wars is also not supposed to be gritty. OT had both. Cloud City is beautiful and pure. Empire buildings are also clean. PT had both.

          Star Wars is not supposed to be Earth-like. George Lucas loved unique looking worlds and every planet in his 6 movies looked unique. Star Wars is a fantasy, that is the whole point. To see things that we can not in real life.

          Even in our Sol system every planet looks different. Every moon looks different.

        • March 22, 2017 at 5:18 am
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          There is nothing believable in alien planets that look like Earth copies. That is scientifically totally impossible and inaccurate, therefore unbelievable and unconvincing.

          Star Wars is also not supposed to be gritty. It is supposed to have both clean and gritty worlds. OT had both. Cloud City is beautiful and pure.
          Empire buildings are also clean. PT had both clean and gritty.

          Star Wars is not supposed to be Earth-like. George Lucas loved unique looking worlds and every planet in his 6 movies looked unique. Star Wars is a fantasy, that
          is the whole point. To see things that we can not in real life.

          Even in our Sol system every planet looks different. Every moon looks different.

          We need planets like this one from Star Trek, that look like planets other than Earth.

          https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/39/9e/e1/399ee19a73de9ed852f75d728442732d.jpg

        • March 22, 2017 at 2:18 pm
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          Yup. Thats why its called a space fantasy…..and takes place in a galaxy far far away…..

          • March 22, 2017 at 2:40 pm
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            And the aesthetic of that fantasy world has already been well-established as I described, not surrealistic and goofy. If you want that sort of thing, go watch that Valerian movie.

          • March 22, 2017 at 6:11 pm
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            You can describe what you like.Fact is you didnt create Star Wars….

          • March 22, 2017 at 7:35 pm
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            No, nor did I claim to. But I have seen the original trilogy, which set the aesthetic standard for what the Star Wars universe looked and felt like.

    • March 22, 2017 at 7:19 am
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      YASSSSSSSSSS!!!

  • March 21, 2017 at 11:47 pm
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    Naboo for sure

  • March 21, 2017 at 11:49 pm
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    Endor would be cool to see again.

    • March 22, 2017 at 12:20 am
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      Want to see it again? Watch the ROTJ blu-ray.

      • March 22, 2017 at 12:26 am
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        I have no issue with that, thanks for the suggestion. And from the article it looks like it could be one of the 3 in Episode Vlll so I just have to wait till December.

        • March 22, 2017 at 12:27 am
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          That’s assuming that this report is true. Which I sure as hell hope it aint.

          • March 22, 2017 at 12:31 am
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            Assuming so. I mentioned I will have to wait till December

          • March 22, 2017 at 12:32 am
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            Why wait when you can watch a nature doc. on the redwood forests of N. California, since that is all Endor is.

          • March 22, 2017 at 12:37 am
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            If Morgan Freeman isn’t narrating I ain’t watching.

        • March 22, 2017 at 12:29 am
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          You mean you couldn’t think of that yourself?

          • March 22, 2017 at 12:32 am
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            No, I have you to help. Thanks bro !

          • March 22, 2017 at 12:34 am
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            Thanks for dignifying my point.

          • March 22, 2017 at 12:38 am
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            My pleasure bro

  • March 22, 2017 at 12:07 am
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    If ep 8 features many Ewoks being taken down by Kylo’s Saber, then this could be worth the price of admission alone. The fabled bloodbath of Endor..

  • March 22, 2017 at 12:19 am
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    NOOOO! I’m done with Tattooine. And Endor, seriously? Aren’t there enough forest and sand planets in the saga that we have to go back to these two?

    • March 22, 2017 at 2:52 am
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      And yet – even if this pans out to be true – come december you’ll be in line for your multiple views, and then in may 2019 and then again, and again, and again – but, hey, after years of people tearing the PT by every possible angle conceivable, now you have something to whine about as well (even if your complaint is totally moot) 😉

  • March 22, 2017 at 12:20 am
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    I’d love to see what Naboo looks like 50+ years later.

    • March 22, 2017 at 12:22 am
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      Like…very…Nabooy?

      *rimshot*

      • March 22, 2017 at 12:23 am
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        Scooby Dooby Naboo, where are you?

        –Darth Vader, Rogue One

  • March 22, 2017 at 12:21 am
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    “To some degree, it would make sense that Luke would return here to train a new generation (of Jedi)…”

    Oh dear gawd WHY?! Because Jedi Order 3.0 will succeed where the others failed? BORING. I think Luke’s more interested in exploring the holistic view & keeping what ‘works’ and ejecting the rigid limitations that led 2 x previous iterations to their logical doom

    NEXT!!!

    • March 22, 2017 at 12:25 am
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      He could still relaunch the Jedi Order, just with some new belief structure.

    • March 22, 2017 at 2:14 am
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      a new generation of “force users”. No more Jedi.

      I’m honestly rather tired of the whole Jedi thing ever since they proved themselves to be somewhat misguided with good intentions. They had their time.

      The ST would do well to incorporate the grey areas and continue to evolve the epic. It doesn’t just end with: the Sith are all dead and now the Jedi can live in peace for a thousand more years while occasionally fighting off some new threat. That would be super lame and uninspired. They need to step it up story-wise and I’m sure they’re well aware.

  • March 22, 2017 at 12:22 am
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    Unless these are in flashbacks or really short scenes, I don’t want to see them again. I want NEW, INTERESTING planets, I don’t want the same old stuff (and in the case of TFA, a freaking REHASH.)

    • March 22, 2017 at 12:24 am
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      “a freaking REHASH”

      Well that’s an ironic comment.

      • March 22, 2017 at 12:25 am
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        Exactly, TFA was a tired, cynical rehash of the previous stuff.

        • March 22, 2017 at 1:09 am
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          No, it was a fun, exciting homage that restored classic Star Wars after the abysmal prequel fiascoes.

          • March 22, 2017 at 6:13 pm
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            for a new generation, it was fun and a homage. For many (although a minority) it was a total best hits from the previous films. Story was very weak, and creates issues with original 6 arc. Not a fan but hoping 8 will right the issues that I had with 7.

        • March 22, 2017 at 4:46 am
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          Cynical? No. Exactly wrong.

      • March 22, 2017 at 12:35 am
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        How so? JJ was very open with his intention of borrowing heavily for Force Awakens.

        • March 22, 2017 at 12:46 am
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          It’s ironic because “REHASH!!!11” comments tend be super over-used and cliche at this point. They are, in and of themselves, rehashed. Besides, i thought this rehash “controversy” ended in 2016. Talk about remaking the past.

          • March 22, 2017 at 12:57 am
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            That is people’s opinion. If that is case everytime someone praised Force Awakens that would be rehash as well.

          • March 22, 2017 at 1:08 am
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            BUT it wouldn’t be ironic. That’s the point I’m trying to make.

          • March 22, 2017 at 1:10 am
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            Then all opinions are rehash and it was silly to point it out to begin with.

          • March 22, 2017 at 1:28 am
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            He doesn’t know what ironic means. Just pat him on the head and let him be.

          • March 22, 2017 at 3:17 am
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            I do feel like I am talking to a rock.

          • March 22, 2017 at 2:05 am
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            No, because I only pointed it out due to the irony. Dero derp.

          • March 22, 2017 at 3:15 am
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            He is posting his feelings though. Which is the entire point of comment section.

  • March 22, 2017 at 12:50 am
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    It kind of matches at least one of the script leaks that i read which was removed from the Internet

  • March 22, 2017 at 12:54 am
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    Wow, more forests and deserts. So original.

    At least, we have the comics and TV series to see new stuff.

    • March 22, 2017 at 1:07 am
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      Flashback sequences. You’re not going to spend half of the movie there.

    • March 22, 2017 at 2:36 am
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      There isn’t a single element, in any Star Wars related material – from the original movie to the most obscure bits and pieces of the EU – that can be honestly called “original” while keeping a straight face. Not. A. Single. One.
      If you want “original”, please, feel free to go and watch the hundreds of perfectly original movies that come out every year (that actually need supporting, since they have a way smaller audience).
      SW is the retelling of a story almost as old as mankind, with very specific and defined tropes and topoi – not just story-wise, but visually as well.
      And don’t get me wrong: it’s great, but if you’re looking for “original” SW really isn’t the best choice.

    • March 22, 2017 at 1:54 pm
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      See the movie before saying such things.

  • March 22, 2017 at 1:08 am
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    I want to see the Knights of Ren occupying Vader’s Castle, and i want to see a battle in that CASTLE!

    • March 22, 2017 at 7:13 am
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      Yes af

    • March 22, 2017 at 3:23 pm
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      #OccupyCastleVader

    • March 22, 2017 at 6:06 pm
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      And Luke show up and slaughter them all!

  • March 22, 2017 at 1:13 am
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    We saw Coruscant and Naboo extensively in three movies. Why do we really need to go back there?

    • March 22, 2017 at 1:26 am
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      Because

    • March 22, 2017 at 2:22 am
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      I would be interested in seeing 1313 live on in the new trilogy, but I don’t have any need to see the upper levels of Coruscant again.

      • March 22, 2017 at 5:01 am
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        I just want something, ANYTHING that takes place on Level 1313. Please, Lucasfilm, make it happen.

    • March 22, 2017 at 2:23 am
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      It’s the capital of the galaxy and first developed one for that matter. It’s like making a political film and not having DC in it. We never seen it in the OT era either except a few seconds of footage in Jedi.

      • March 22, 2017 at 5:36 am
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        It is no longer the capital of the galaxy. The New Republic moves the capital every few years to keep from centralizing power.

        Coruscant will have a lot of bad memories associated with it for the galaxy and the victors of the second galactic civil war; the fall of the Republic and the Jedi, and the rise of the Emperor and his Empire.

        Makes sense that the planet is no longer present in the films.

  • March 22, 2017 at 1:14 am
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    Are the people complaining about seeing Tatooine again the same people lobbying for an Obi Wan standalone movie taking place solely on Tatooine?

    • March 22, 2017 at 1:14 am
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      lol

    • March 22, 2017 at 1:18 am
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      I would love to see Kylo Ren walking through the streets of Mos Espa or the Lars Homestead. Tatooine is more to me than just a desert planet.

      • March 22, 2017 at 4:56 am
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        it would be interesting if she were to walk through Tatooine and see visions of all the cool, things that have gone down there.

        Qui-Gon vs Maul
        The Lars Homestead being burned
        Obi-Wan vs Maul
        Luke escaping Mos Eisley on the Millenium Falcon
        Luke rescuing Han from Jabba

        And much much more.

    • March 22, 2017 at 1:23 am
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      High possibility

    • March 22, 2017 at 2:47 am
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      Most likely, yeah – since that complaint seems to comes mostly from prequelites and prequelites tend to be… uhm… not entirely coherent in their thought process, to say the least.

      • March 22, 2017 at 5:28 am
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        DISNEY HATES THE PREQUELS. IT’S A CONSPIRACY. THEY WILL DO EVERYTHING TO EDIT THE PREQUELS FROM EXISTENCE. DID YOU SEE WHAT THEY DID WITH REBELS AND THE OBI WAN MAUL ENCOUNTER?!

        SWNN SAYS ITS TRUE! ITS REAL! THE PREQUEL HATE CONSPIRACY IS REAL!

        • March 22, 2017 at 2:17 pm
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          oh the lulz

    • March 22, 2017 at 2:16 pm
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      Likely.

  • March 22, 2017 at 1:23 am
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    oh man, this is gold. to me, it doesn’t get more Star Wars than Tatooine, Skywalkers legacy is forever bound with the planet and I was rooting so bad to see it in ST

  • March 22, 2017 at 1:29 am
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    Planets I would really love to see again are Naboo, Coruscant and Mustafar. Also Felucia, because it looks cool and original.
    I love Tatooine too, but we have seen enough desert Tatooine like planets in new movies.

    • March 22, 2017 at 2:20 am
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      Coruscant is a no brainer. No excuse for them leaving it out.

      • March 22, 2017 at 4:45 am
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        Unless the story has nothing to do with it. You know, that excuse.

        • March 22, 2017 at 4:53 am
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          Nope, Disney hates the prequels. /s

        • March 22, 2017 at 4:58 am
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          Stories can take place on any planet. If they want, they can take place on Coruscant.

          • March 22, 2017 at 5:03 am
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            Yeah, but maybe they have created a BETTER story that can’t take place on Coruscant. Don’t you want them to make the best movie possible, rather than retooling the script just to fit your demands?

          • March 22, 2017 at 5:07 am
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            Best example is ”Ring of Kafrene” location. That whole scene could take place on Coruscant if they wanted.
            I love that location by the way. I’am using it just as example.

          • March 22, 2017 at 1:44 pm
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            That’s not true. If there is no place in the story for a city-planet, it wouldn’t make sense. Having Rey be on Coruscant would have been pretty silly.

      • March 22, 2017 at 5:34 am
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        I think Coruscant isn’t very important to the galay anymore at this point.

        • March 22, 2017 at 6:09 am
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          Two words “Jedi temple.” Plus Hosnian went bye bye so the new republic is gonna need to rebuild..what better place?

          • March 22, 2017 at 2:18 pm
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            I’m more interested to see how Sheev redecorated the place.

          • March 22, 2017 at 8:39 pm
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            Yes, but I want to walk the halls, so to speak!

          • March 22, 2017 at 5:53 pm
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            Two more words: “Imperial Palace”

            Two more words: “Sith Shrine”

            Besides, considering how small the New Republic must be after the Hosnian Cataclysm, they probably couldn’t occupy an entire ecumenopolis even if they tried.

          • March 22, 2017 at 6:00 pm
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            Yes yes and yes Coruscant is rich with things lol I would understand if it’s not a part of the story they want to tell but it would be a great addition to the ST

          • March 22, 2017 at 6:03 pm
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            It’d be cool to see Luke visit it in a force back or possibly take Rey there to retrieve something…

      • March 22, 2017 at 5:37 am
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        Keep posting Snarkums. Any day now Lucasfilm is going to give you that call and your opinion will start to matter.

      • March 22, 2017 at 6:01 pm
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        I can’t recall since the purge..in current canon, isn’t the Jedi temple on Coruscant built over some Sith temple or something??

        • March 22, 2017 at 6:03 pm
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          Yep. A Sith shrine that clouded the sense of the Jedi in the Temple.

          • March 22, 2017 at 6:20 pm
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            man, there’s a whole goldmine of ideas to go with!

  • March 22, 2017 at 1:41 am
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    Do you think the Ordu Aspectu from the Doctor Aphra series will somehow tie into The Last Jedi?

    • March 22, 2017 at 4:53 am
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      I wouldn’t be surprised if they get a mention or something, but I doubt they’ll get any sort of true focus.

  • March 22, 2017 at 2:18 am
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    Fucking Endor?! I have a bad feeling about this though I wonder how they are going to make Tatooine feel different from Jakku. Mustafar seems like an obvious choice and it’s kind of cool we now see it in the PT, OT, and ST era.

    • March 22, 2017 at 2:41 am
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      It’s actually Fucking *on* Endor. (That’s how Kylo was made.)

      • March 22, 2017 at 4:52 am
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        ACTUALLY, it was fucking on the Millennium Falcon. Get your facts straight, newbie. /s

        • March 22, 2017 at 5:40 am
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          And I thought those books were for kids.
          (And that night on Endor — Han got drunk and humped Wicket.)

          • March 22, 2017 at 5:49 am
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            It all makes sense now….

    • March 22, 2017 at 2:20 pm
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      Well, Tatooine and Jakku already feel different, so there isn’t much more they need to do there. Even the sand is colored differently, so.

      • March 22, 2017 at 4:17 pm
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        You sound like another deluded TFA cheerleader who refuses to admit to himself how much of a complete knock-off the movie is, despite clear evidence that it is. Please do everyone a favour and never give your opinion on what a Star Wars film should be about again because that’s the reason we got Awakens in the first place. How the hell are Tatooine and Jakku different? Like the film but for the love of god be honest about why you like it. Don’t try to attach some greater excellence to it than actually exists. In reality there is no difference between the planets but it made you feel all warm and fuzzy inside so it’s taken little to no effort for you to argue otherwise, based purely on your feelings and against logic.

        • March 22, 2017 at 5:14 pm
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          “…deluded TFA cheerleader who refuses to admit to himself how much of a complete knock-off the movie is, despite clear evidence that it is…”

          This again? Your a bit late to that party.

          “Please do everyone a favour and never give your opinion on what a Star Wars film should be about…”

          Good luck with that. It’s a discussion forum. Your contributions here have been near-meaningless. You should do everyone a favor and just go away.

          Seriously. Just. Go. Away.

        • March 22, 2017 at 8:34 pm
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          Someone is butthurt….

        • March 22, 2017 at 8:37 pm
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          I liked TFA, sorry you didn’t. Yes, there are similarities, but that exists for ALL the 7 movies. Ever read Ring Theory? The whole premise is just that. So…. I don’t care about the similarities I think it is perfectly in line with what we have been getting for this franchise, and I welcome it. Please, if you hate the direction so much, and hate fans like me who appreciate it, flaws and all, why don’t you piss off, not tell me how I should think, and find a new franchise to follow, because this one is obviously not working for you.

      • March 22, 2017 at 5:55 pm
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        LOL!!!! different in name..about all.

        • March 22, 2017 at 6:02 pm
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          And different in giant shipyards worth of crashed and destroyed starships.

          But other than that, nothing….

          • March 22, 2017 at 6:21 pm
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            ok, ok…one minor detail.

        • March 22, 2017 at 8:32 pm
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          Really? You are not reading the new canon novels, apparently…

          • March 23, 2017 at 5:06 am
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            I have…but only found a couple worth the read.

    • March 22, 2017 at 5:54 pm
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      Hoping Ren goes to Endor and has an epic battle with a tribe of Ewoks…then later it shows him and the KOR having a Wicket BBQ with beer!

      • March 27, 2017 at 8:22 pm
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        If he survives that, then he has already surpassed Vader.

  • March 22, 2017 at 2:36 am
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    Naboo, Coruscant and Mustafar are must for me. Futuristic ”Blade Runner” look of Coruscant is what I love. I want too see a real city.
    Also Felucia, because it looks original and different from rest.

  • March 22, 2017 at 5:23 am
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    I hope that all the people asking for certain things to be featured in the movies just because that’s what they WANT to see and not because it would make sense (fan-service) are not the same people that come back after the movie saying it’s bad because they didn’t get what THEY wanted.

    • March 22, 2017 at 5:38 am
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      I never get what I want. And I blame Obama for it.

      THANKS OBAMA.

        • March 23, 2017 at 3:05 am
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          Uh huh.

      • March 22, 2017 at 2:33 pm
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        LOL…..I’ve heard liberals say that……

      • March 22, 2017 at 5:52 pm
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        Now that’s funny!

    • March 22, 2017 at 8:42 am
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      Wh you would someone be disappointed in a movie that didn’t deliver content they wanted. Movie watcher should take what they’re given and kerosene their mouths shut. How dare they develop expectations.

      • March 22, 2017 at 1:51 pm
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        Having preconditions on what needs to happen in a movie is dumb.

        • March 22, 2017 at 2:07 pm
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          That’s why I go with the flow and and make my judgments after.

          • March 22, 2017 at 3:55 pm
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            Same.

          • March 22, 2017 at 5:51 pm
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            Same here.

      • March 22, 2017 at 2:21 pm
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        Curious: how does one “kerosene their mouth shut”?

  • March 22, 2017 at 5:54 am
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    I vote for Planet of the Apes, the Daily Planet, and Pizza Planet.

    • March 22, 2017 at 8:35 am
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      No love for Planet Spaceball?

      – Pomojema

    • March 22, 2017 at 2:21 pm
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      No Bantha planets?

  • March 22, 2017 at 6:18 am
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    Come on April 12th!!!!

  • March 22, 2017 at 6:42 am
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    That was deep.

  • March 22, 2017 at 6:56 am
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    I just want to see Luke be the Grand Master Luke Skywalker we saw in Legends. And in legends he did change things in the Jedi order, like letting people love and get married, etc.

    • March 22, 2017 at 5:50 pm
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      Only in my dreams will this ever happen…sadly

      • March 22, 2017 at 9:21 pm
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        He may be similar to Legends GM Luke, but probably won’t be just like it. It would be cool though.

  • March 22, 2017 at 8:01 am
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    And the complexity of it all? You can say even Luke was once on Mustafar too… 🙂 (Just not born yet!) when Padmé pregnant visited Anakin!

    • March 22, 2017 at 8:35 am
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      Well, he was damn near close to being born, and that’s what matters.

      – Pomojema

      • March 22, 2017 at 8:39 am
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        Yea, If the planet held some kind of mystical connection with the dark side, a baby force user may form a connection.

    • March 23, 2017 at 12:35 am
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      Aaand if I remember Aftermath correctly, Ben Solo was conceived on Endor!

      • March 23, 2017 at 6:52 am
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        I believe *Poe* was conceived on Endor.

        • March 24, 2017 at 8:25 am
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          Nah, Poe was, like, two or three when Endor happened, per the Shattered Empire series.

          – Pomojema

          • March 24, 2017 at 4:20 pm
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            Noice.

          • March 24, 2017 at 7:14 pm
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            Found it!
            “Han looks into the eyes of his son.
            My son.
            How the hell did that happen? Well, he knows how that happened – a night under the stars in the canopy of Endor trees. But in the larger sense, the galaxy is a far stranger place than he figured on if it’s letting him be a father.”

            And Pomojema is right, Poe was born few years prior on Yavin IV.

          • March 24, 2017 at 7:26 pm
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            Ah, that’s right. I just remember a line Bloodline about Leia and Han getting it on on the road, but I guess they stopped on Endor to bang.

            Sounds romantic.

          • March 24, 2017 at 9:14 pm
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            Well, I am a bit confused by the timeline here.. I thought this is implying that the aforementioned night happened basically right after ROTJ, which would correspond with Ben being born around the Battle of Jakku – no more than a year later.
            But if there’s 30 years between ROTJ a TFA as everyone says.. does this make Kylo a 29 years old teenager?!

          • March 24, 2017 at 9:26 pm
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            Where did you get the teenager part from?

          • March 24, 2017 at 9:34 pm
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            Well, I just meant that in TFA, he’s still behaving like a moody adolescent – can’t believe he’s this old..

          • March 24, 2017 at 10:25 pm
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            Well I wouldn’t peg a Dark Side-user as the emotionally stable type of person.

  • March 22, 2017 at 10:29 am
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    Really great article, sounds like the story is going to be pretty cool

  • March 22, 2017 at 12:42 pm
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    Noooo! Not Mustafar. Don’t put any reference to those God awful prequels, please

    • March 22, 2017 at 12:47 pm
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      Hahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!

    • March 22, 2017 at 1:28 pm
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      Mustafar emerged from an awful prequel-planet with a dumb lightsaber fight to an awesome Vader homestead. This could be a phantastic hideout for the Knights of Ren.

      • March 22, 2017 at 2:04 pm
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        Exactly what I thought of.

      • March 22, 2017 at 4:06 pm
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        Remind me never to consult you on matters of taste. A planet doesn’t just become awful because it was in the prequels nor a lightsaber duel dumb.

      • March 22, 2017 at 5:49 pm
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        what???

        • March 22, 2017 at 6:17 pm
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          Don’t feed the troll.

    • March 22, 2017 at 2:22 pm
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      Ironic coming from someone with a username as yours.

    • March 22, 2017 at 4:04 pm
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      You don’t get to say that Bantha Poodoo. They’re part of the canon so just shut your mouth and get on board with it. So called fans like you are the ones who keep ruining the franchise for everyone with your bitterness. I love the prequels, I think they’re incredibly deep and thoughtful films and once again they’re canon so there’s no argument. If you really respected Star Wars and the work that was put into creating it by George Lucas you wouldn’t be going on like this so stop being so childish and ungrateful. Enough with this irrational hatred. They’re only movies in the end and they’re not going to hurt you.

      • March 22, 2017 at 5:08 pm
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        I don’t care much for the Prequels. That being said, I do understand that they’re part of the canon and I don’t have any real issues with them being integrated into new stories.

        That being said…

        “shut your mouth and get on board with it.”

        Was this said ironically? How old are you? Good lord, lets disagree like adults here.

        “If you really respected Star Wars and the work that was put into creating it by George Lucas you wouldn’t be going on like this so stop being so childish and ungrateful.”

        It’s not disrespectful to dislike something. This isn’t a zero-sum game. I love Star Wars, but I’m not an overly enthusiastic fan of the Prequels. This idea that you either love everything Star Wars or else you’re not a true fan or whatever is kid stuff.

      • March 22, 2017 at 7:27 pm
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        He/she can say whatever he/she wants about them. You don’t get to decide what people write about here, as long as it’s not obscene or personally demeaning. People have every right to think that those movies are insultingly bad, just as you have the right to think they were great. The reasons that people give for not liking them are not irrational, they are completely valid. People are not required to love everything with a Star Wars logo on it. This is not a cult. People have the right to say when something sucks, so you need to learn to deal with it.

      • March 22, 2017 at 8:10 pm
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        The Prequels are the biggest cinematic disappointment in modern history. “Deep and thoughtful films”?? More like CGI-bad-acting DISASTER AREAS!

        • March 22, 2017 at 10:09 pm
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          I submit for your consideration the Hobbit films.

          • March 23, 2017 at 6:55 am
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            I submit for your consideration Spider-Man 3.

            and the reboot.

            and the sequel to the reboot.

        • March 23, 2017 at 2:02 am
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          Exactly the kind of shallow thoughtless answer I expected. Thank you for adding absolutely nothing new to the discourse.

        • March 23, 2017 at 6:55 am
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          “Star Wars: The Phantom Menace is the most disappointing thing since my son.”

      • March 23, 2017 at 10:37 am
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        @disqus_Wy0GVr8LFI:disqus “They’re part of the canon so just shut your mouth and get on board with it.”

        This is called “acritical thinking”.

    • March 22, 2017 at 7:32 pm
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      I hate the prequels, but Mustafar is such a visually interesting place, and I wouldn’t mind seeing it again, without the stupidity of characters leaping on floating droids over the lava like something out of Super Mario Bros.

    • March 22, 2017 at 9:41 pm
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      Come now, its in Rogue One and the setting even adds to the film.

  • March 22, 2017 at 1:21 pm
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    “By the resolving of gray

    Through refined Jedi sight.”

    Does Luke reject Ben and Yoda’s point of view because he became a gray Jedi? Because he saw (in his father), that it isn’t only pure good or pure evil?

    • March 22, 2017 at 2:11 pm
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      I think he will ultimately reject his teaching as well. In my mind the Jedi did nothing but lie to him and keep things from him. Then in his final battle Darth Sidious and the Jedi were telling him to do the exact same thing. Kill his Father. Luke was a true Jedi and chose the middle path and saved his father through love and self sacrifice. I hope his new order has these traits as well.

      • March 22, 2017 at 2:23 pm
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        Only thing that makes sense. Explains the focus on Ahsoka being grey.

      • March 22, 2017 at 10:22 pm
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        To be fair only Obi-Wan says that Luke must kill his father. Yoda simply states that Luke must “confront” Vader again to become a Jedi.

        I always took this to mean that Obi-wan was unable to see the possibility of Vader becoming good again due to the deep personal nature of the betrayal. Yoda, being not as close to Anakin/Vader, and also being stronger in the Force and having a more enlightened point of view saw that there was a possibility of Vader coming back to the light, but that it was only through Luke that that could happen, hence another confrontation needing to occur.

        • March 23, 2017 at 6:24 am
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          All I keep thinking is how to imagine what a world of fucked up father haters we would have all become if Vader had killed Luke.

    • March 22, 2017 at 4:36 pm
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      Pablo Hidalgo has rejected the gray jedi thing so i doubt it.

      • March 23, 2017 at 1:55 am
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        Didn’t Bendu say in Rebels that he was neither Jedi or Sith, “I’m the on in the middle.”, basically implying that people like Ashoka and himself are the new canons version of a Grey Jedi, so technically this idea would still work, but Pablo would still be correct in rejecting the Grey Jedi.

        KInd of like how Kylo isn’t Jacen, but they’re effectively the same character.

        • March 23, 2017 at 4:08 pm
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          There’s no such thing as a ” Grey Jedi.” That’s the point. The Bendu isn’t a Jedi. Ashoka left the Jedi order.

          • March 24, 2017 at 8:21 am
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            The Bendu is a True Neutral character. Notice how he’s not immediately concerned with Ezra and Kanan living or dying when they’re looking for the Holocron. He’s still helpful to their needs, but he mostly keeps to himself and makes observations as he pleases.

            – Pomojema

    • March 24, 2017 at 12:37 am
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      What exactly do you think “resolving of gray” means? It seems as if you’re taking the exact opposite meaning.

    • March 24, 2017 at 8:19 am
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      “Resolving” does not equal “embracing”. The idea of that stanza, as I see it, is that it’s about looking deeply into the unpleasant moral ambiguities present in an existing version of an ideology and fixing it by figuring out what it really means to be a Jedi. It doesn’t have anything to do with “Luke now has to be more ruthless in using the Force” or anything like that.

      – Pomojema

  • March 22, 2017 at 4:46 pm
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    Grey, grey, grey, grey, silver!
    I’ve said it before and I’ll excitedly say it again, purely cos I’m old grumpy and not much keeps my interest these days, I hope Luke has gone all Master Bendu.
    A more universally wise and zen character, no longer restrained by pigeon holed ideals of a pre delineated path of light or dark.
    I’m excited for tattooine, there could be some great hidden relevance, as long as it’s not some baby Jesus or lady jesus Skywalker birthing pit.
    Endor has obvious connections with Darth and I could even handle a C3po ewok reunion gag

    • March 22, 2017 at 8:03 pm
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      Re: “Endor has obvious connections with Darth”
      Sure.
      The Luke connection there, confronting Father & both tempting one another to the other side conversation(s).
      And Luke rejecting turning to dark side there was so significant a connection with his arc.

  • March 22, 2017 at 4:46 pm
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    It’s difficult to draw much from this article because the author is editorializing too much.

    For example: “he [Luke] also thinks that the way he learned was deeply flawed (which the Prequel Trilogy clearly demonstrated).”

    This isn’t clearly demonstrated in the PT and it’s highly debatable. This is a misunderstanding of the PT and it’s not how Lucas viewed it. Now, the story group might go in a different direction, but I wonder if this misunderstand is clouding the author’s speculation about Luke.

    • March 22, 2017 at 5:36 pm
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      Is it debatable, though? It seemed like it was the whole point Lucas was trying to get across when he made the PT. The Jedi lost their way and that led to their downfall.

      • March 22, 2017 at 7:31 pm
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        Yes, it’s debatable. There’s are long threads about. Anakin joined the Sith, broke the Jedi Code, and the whole thing was manipulated by Palpatine. The Jedi lasted 1000 years before Anakin.

        • March 22, 2017 at 8:59 pm
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          Yoda even flat out SAYS the Jedi have gotten too dogmatic and lost their way. Lucas mentions in the commentary to AotC that his point with the missing planet scene between Yoda and Obi Wan is that the Jedi have gotten completely complacent and can’t even conceive of not possessing all information they might need. He botched the execution, but that was the intent – to show how inflexible the order had become.

          • March 22, 2017 at 10:12 pm
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            Oh man I forgot about that commentary bit. Nice catch.

      • March 23, 2017 at 7:23 pm
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        Lucas changed the Jedi quite a bit between the making of A New Hope and the Phantom Menace. ObiWan and Anakin were described more like European knights or Samurai than monks in the OT. They followed a strict code, but they were clearly men of action — as the Jedi Knights had been for over a thousand generations. The Jedi described in the OT were not celibate monks. Ben is pretty casual when he tells Luke that Anakin was his father. Yoda even tells him to “pass on what he’s learned”. The whole celibate monk thing feels like a retcon. You can make it work, but it muddies the story a bit. You have to add a bunch of extra “certain points of view”. It also undercuts the evolution of ObiWan to Ben the hermit.

        I preferred the simpler version. 4 powerful force wielders survived the Clone Wars. A master and a knight for both the dark and the light side of the force. The pair on the light side grew to understand the Force on a deeper level and were able to train a new Champion (who had the potential to go either way). The pair on the dark side of the force appeared to be stronger, but were actually trapped in their own greed & were defeated. Yoda even hints the this will be the case when describing the dark side to Luke. In the end, Vader has an epiphany and becomes Anakin again — tipping the balance of power even further to the light side.

        In the earlier version, the Jedi didn’t lose their way, They just needed to evolve to finally beat the Sith and, you know, save the galaxy.

    • March 22, 2017 at 10:09 pm
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      It may not be how Lucas viewed it originally but by the the end of the Clone Wars TV show, specifically the last Yoda arc in the lost season, it becomes clear that at least Yoda thinks the Jedi have strayed far form what they are supposed to be.

      This is echoed again in the Lost Disciple novel with the council okaying the assassination of Dooku and the moral crisis this caused in Obi-Wan.

      And when Ezra converses with Yoda in season 2 of Rebels, Yoda strongly implies that the Jedi’s willingness to involve themselves in the Clone Wars in terms of being military commanders was a mistake and through that implication that the Jedi had strayed far from their original path.

  • March 22, 2017 at 5:08 pm
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    At least with the PT comments, there’s a bit of diversity; there’s more than one thing to complain about. With TFA comments, it’s always the exact same complaint said in the exact same way.

    • March 22, 2017 at 5:31 pm
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      AHHHHHHHH THE TRUTH! IT HURTSS!!

  • March 22, 2017 at 5:47 pm
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    Excellent theories…as long as they don’t affect the story arc of the original 6. Which was on of my biggest concerns with 7. I do believe they have the right guy working on it though!

  • March 22, 2017 at 6:40 pm
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    The fact the Kylo is a vader fanboy, these make total sense.

    Where Anakin was born
    Where Anakin died and Vader was born
    Where Vader died and Anakin was born…again

    I can see this being totally true

    • March 22, 2017 at 7:33 pm
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      35 years of catch-up…

      I’m down.

      (Just wait ’til Kylo finds out his other grandfather is Woody Harrelson.)

      • March 24, 2017 at 11:19 pm
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        Grandson to Darth Vader and Mickey Knox? You could say that makes him a Natural Born Kylo —

        I’ll show myself out.

    • March 23, 2017 at 12:51 am
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      Except that Anakin ‘died’ and Vader was ‘born’ on Coruscant.

  • March 22, 2017 at 8:28 pm
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    Those 3x planets definitely tie a lot of the trilogies events/stories & generational character arcs together.

    Of course Anakin’s life/death/conversion & Luke’s journey/transformation(/conversion).

    All 3x planets could have similar significant with Rey (moreso Tatooine) if her father is Luke.

    Tatooine (/connecting movies?) –
    Ben Kenobi had great part of his life on that planet, as well. Bit more tie-in to a side Kenobi movie possibly? Like Rogue One (ostensibly) sharing Mustafar with final trilogy. Obvious would be easy to have Han Solo movie have scene (if brief) on Tatooine.

  • March 22, 2017 at 9:35 pm
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    Didn’t one of Lucas’s ideas for the ST have Endor visited? Something about searching through the some of the surviving wreckage of the 2nd Death Star?

    Would love to see more of Vader’s castle, perhaps Kylo has set up residence.

    In regard to Tatooine it makes sense for Luke to have set up there to teach, perhaps even in Jabba’s palace.

    • March 22, 2017 at 11:47 pm
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      Yeah, there was art for it in the concept art book for TFA. With the throne room under water on Endor!

      • March 23, 2017 at 6:55 pm
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        That’s the one!!

    • March 23, 2017 at 3:34 pm
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      Jabba’s palace was previously a monastery, hence the B’omarr monks, who continued to live there.

  • March 22, 2017 at 9:39 pm
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    I think we are slowly finding out. It’s the slow part that’s agonizing to me…

    • March 22, 2017 at 9:45 pm
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      Tell me about it I’m still trying to maintain sanity while I wait to find out if Rey is related to anyone and if Snoke is anyone we know

  • March 23, 2017 at 8:21 pm
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    If what you are saying is true about Luke’s backstory, it is both quite predictable as well as absolutely the right direction in which to go. Everything from what we know about Luke’s latest activities (going searching for the first Jedi Temple) to the visual choreography of the ending of TFA (especially Luke’s very ancient-style costume reminiscent of KOTOR as he stands at the first Jedi Template) would indicate a man who is on a journey to discover a sort of spiritual root and has found it.

  • March 24, 2017 at 4:46 pm
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    I don’t know if this has already been mentioned but based on SW:Bloodline I don’t think the new jedi temple can be on Tatooine. Leia mentions that messages are difficult to send to the temple due to the radiation fields that surround the planet where its located. As there has never been any mention of this type of effect around Tatooine it would seem to disqualify it as the site of the temple.

  • March 25, 2017 at 4:06 pm
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  • March 26, 2017 at 4:29 am
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    Luke may have taken his nephew/pupil to these planets to teach him and it went wrong. Check the casting for a young Kylo Ren.

    My god this website is death to use on iOS iPad.

  • March 29, 2017 at 4:28 am
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    They can’t really show anything without giving the movie away.
    People are simply too clever these days.

  • March 31, 2017 at 2:53 pm
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    things like this absolutely excite me and I would love to see these things come to fruition. It would truly be something new and interesting involving the Jedi in general. However, Luke is going to die. They are gonna kill him off by the end of Last Jedi most likely and I’m likely not going to bother with IX.

    I understand that these stories are for the “New Generation” but you don’t have to destroy my childhood hero to have a great story or even a new generation for that matter. Nobody died in Empire, technically speaking, and it was an absolutely great film!

    • April 1, 2017 at 2:14 pm
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      Slow the f*** down. Nobody’s even dead yeat and you’re already
      complaining. You’re talking like it’s a given that Luke will die in The
      Last Jedi, while it’s highly unlikely Lucasfilm will do that.

      They know very well that Han Solo in the 1st movie and Luke in the 2nd, then probably Leia since Fisher’s no longer among us, would be too much.

      You’re right that the new trilogy is about setting the New Generation.
      But it doesn’t mean every character you love is going to die.

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