John Boyega & Daisy Ridley Meet John Williams!
John Boyega and Daisy Ridley recently met with the Star Wars maestro himself, as revealed through their Instagram accounts. Interestingly enough, it looks as though there is a link between their meeting and a point revealed in a recent interview…
Something worth noting is that in that recent Australian interview, J. J. Abrams briefly mentioned that Williams had one more scoring session to do before the final cut of The Force Awakens went gold. Given that Boyega and Ridley were both present to meet him, it’s likely that this was the same session that Abrams was alluding to. As it stands, it looks as though the movie is coming along swimmingly, and will be completed with more than enough time to spare for its release date this December.
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Grant has been a fan of Star Wars for as long as he can remember, having seen every movie on the big screen. When he’s not hard at work with his college studies, he keeps himself busy by reporting on all kinds of Star Wars news for SWNN and general movie news on the sister site, Movie News Net. He served as a frequent commentator on SWNN’s The Resistance Broadcast.
Did they use Lukes stunt double for that painting?
It looks more like the kid from the goonies.
“The Force is with you, young Chunk… but you are not a Jedi yet.”
I found this way too funny.
Chunk: “Then I am a Jedi”
John Williams: “Not yet. The Truffle Shuffle. You MUST do the Truffle Shuffle”
It’s Chunk’s one and only Force power.
Chunk as Luke Skywalker?…hmm…I could see it…I mean we do live in a world where Mikey is a hobbit, Mouth is a Ninja Turtle, and Brand is Thanos the Mad Titan. Goonies never say die…instead they live for geek fandom.
This is obvious confirmations that John Williams is Rey and Kylo Ren’s father.
no no no Finn is his son, not Kylo.
I am wondering which music from OT will he use for TFA aside from Force theme, Love theme for Han and Leia ? Will he score new music for First Order or use Imperial March again ?
I’m curious what he’s gonna do about Imperial March,
because while it was Darth Vader’s theme per se, I think it’s more the theme of Vader’s persona. So if Kylo is trying to be the 2nd coming of Darth Vader, that would suggest to me that he’d carry some version of Imperial March.
Also the ‘March somewhat was exemplary of not only Vader but the Military itself, so I’d think the Stormtroopers would still have some of the old themes.
I’m really excited to hear what JW has in store this go-around. Though I’m not sure if I liked the War Theme in the PT, first the Droids have it. but then that theme starts playing with the Clone Troopers too, kind of dull.
Imperial March is a better starting point.
How about an all new, original theme with just hints of the OT soundtrack sprinkled in?
Not to mention Luke’s theme and the Rebel Fanfare which is pretty much confirmed if they use the Main Title in it. I’d like to hear the Luke/Leia theme again though not likely considering it doesn’t seem like they get any screen time together. The Droids theme too.
I cannot WAIT to get my TFA soundtrack copy on 12/18! To listen and re-listen to the Maestro’s symphonic masterpiece!!! 😀
Listen – without peeking at the Track Title list. 😉
I found in youtube 2 hours of Vader breath sound, I opened in other tab 2 hours of rain sound with thunders here and there, wow, it was a magical combo, a kind of mix of relaxing and disturbing.
You’re either a madman or a genius for even thinking about than mix. But, I like that, and had to try it! I added an old medieval church bell in the background to add to the eeriness. It could be a creepy Halloween track….
None of that, it was a casual find. In an office years ago we identified our boss as Vader so we usually made jokes about it. If my memory is ok I didn´t remember Vader in the first trilogy ever under a rain, it was nice to see Ren Knights under a storm in the trailer.
I can’t wait to hear Rey and Finn’s leitmotifs
Rey yes but if Finn is the new Han then he may not get one at all. Williams scored one for Solo in Empire but it was never used in the films.
I think he’s a little more important than Han was originally.
So you seen the film and know he survives VIII and has more than the cameo Luke is geting in this one? Getting your ass kicked by a creepy revisionist Vader fanboy with a shoddy built saber doesn’t strike me plot integral.
When he helps blow up a superweapon, saves the main character’s life more than once in two diferent films, successsfully beats the odds by navigating through an asteroid field after being the focus of a galaxy wide man hunt, is mentioned in the opening crawl, commands a price of 50,000 on the invisible market, leads a succesful attack on another with his strike team, and makes General then you can talk otherwise I cry shenanigans on your claims.
Han was a supporting character in the OT. Finn pretty much “Luke” along side Rey.
Besides we know he survives. Boyega did chemistry reads with a new female character for VIII.
So cry shenanigans all you want.
I’m guessing you lack the ability to read a movie poster? Mark Hamil is named above Boyega in this one, Brah. Ford is at the very top, Should I dumb it down further for you? I have a box of crayons I can spell it out for you with if you promise not to eat them.
I said BEYOND VIII! Get your GED and learn to read, Man!
You rode the short bus didn’t ya?
MARK HAMILL had top billing on OT posters, stupid ass.
I said at the top not top billing. You need to take a reading comprehension class before exposing your ignorance.
Awww, You just mad cause you were wrong and everyone here knows it now but whatever gets you through the night.
You fail again because you have not seen the film yet nor read the script and are going by rumors on here. There’s nothing to suggest that he’s in it for the whole film or that he’s the main focus on Jakku, Starkiller, or Takodana. If you actually watched the trailer, Rey is in it longer than he is. Also a fight is one where someone can actually pull their own weight, You might as well call the one that Luke had with phantom Vader one that lasted all of 5 seconds.
Again, You don’t know the full story and therefore are only going by conjecture and jumping to conclusions. Unless you can produce an accurate full synopisis of the plot or have the novelization then you are talking out of your asshole again.
Umm, Maybe because he dies? Didn’t think of that one did you? Not sure if you actually watched any of the films before but rarely do any of the main characters make it to the very end.
Nice advice but clearly you need it more than I do.
My bad. I thought when you used the word “top,” as in “above all,” you meant the word “top,” as in “above all.” Excuse me for parsing your poor composition and inept word usage as written. Don’t worry. Next time I’ll go forward as if I’m talking to someone incompetent.
There’s no suggestion that he’s in it for the whole film? Are you kidding me? The dude is seen in the trailer on every major setting we know exists in the movie. We see him on Jakku, on the Finalizer, on Maz’s planet, on Starkiller base, at the resistance base.We know from interviews he starts the plot off and is the connective tissue that draws in the other characters. Of course he’s in it for the whole film. Not only that but he’s been called the male lead by everyone reporting on the film. Why is this so hard to understand?
And no. I timed it. Kylo/Rey/Finn are on screen about the same amount of time. Which makes sense considering they are the highest billed new characters, in that order.
“Again, You don’t know the full story and therefore are only going by conjecture and jumping to conclusions. . .”
There’s two different ways to go about this. 1, we can look at the evidence to fill in blanks, as I do. Or 2, we can consult our personal head canon, as you seem compelled to do. You want me to believe that Finn is unimportant, gets killed halfway through the series, or not in the entirety of TFA despite the fact that he’s marketed in virtual tandem with Rey. Dude, you’re delusional. Not only this, but you get on me about “conclusions,” and then you go on to assume that Finn’s battle with Ren is going to be the same length as Luke’s vision in the cave. Where in your feckless integrity did you get this information?
“Umm, Maybe because he dies in it and they are trying to give him the character development he doesn’t get in TFA?. . .”
I didn’t think of that possibility because I’m not retarded. Character development he doesn’t get in TFA? The dude goes from being a Stormtrooper for the First Order to using a lightsaber for the Resistance all in the same movie. Seems like his story is already plenty dynamic this early in the game. Odds are he was so important in TFA this character he’s dealing with in VIII gets enough screen time to be considered a main character just by association. But no. . .that makes too much sense for it to be true. Let’s go with your stupid idea of him making up for barely being in TFA before his death.
Secondly, of all the main characters in star wars movies, only the mentors regularly die. Padme is the exception, but that makes sense considering HER CHILDREN WERE ESTABLISHED AS EFFECTIVELY ORPHANED in the OT. More pointedly, when they actually did have an opportunity to kill a character like Han Solo, what did they do? They spared him, even against the advice of the actor that PLAYED him. So even if Finn is the “HAN” role, odds are he’d live through most of the series just as his predecessor did. Want Finn to die? Better update your head canon to make him Rey’s mentor or the father of her future orphaned children.
And just so you know I’m not BSing, here are all the >main< protagonists that die in the SW feature length films.
TPM- Qui-gon
AOTC-No one
ROTS- Padme
ANH-Obi-Wan
ESB-No One
ROTJ- No One ( Vader is a villain for most of the movie)
See? Most characters that die don't belong on the list, and when they do, it's usually at the end of their usefulness to the story and at the butt end of the film. So the odds of Finn dying before IX is really, really low; and definitely no better than Rey or Kylo's if this list is to be considered an example.
So with all this, I will repeat myself.
THINK.
How can you even begin to mix up “top billing” and “at the top”? Especially considering Ford has never been the star of the film? That’s just a complete lack of common sense right there.
Princess Leia was the female lead of ANH and she all but vanished for a good portion of the film till the third act. Even then she’s left on the sidelines during The Battle Of Yavin.
But even still, Compare that with Jar Jar’s little screentime in the TPM trailers and he’s in the film a lot more than most of the main characters. Like you said, It’s just marketing.
I never said anywhere on here that he was unimportant, That was your own delusion. I said he was the ST’s version of Han Solo which you denied and keep denying. Let’s see of what we actually know and not what you made up….
Both are veterens of the other side with combat/piloting skills who don Stormtrooper armor during a botched rescue and wind up in the middle of a conflict (as well as a desert planet) where they ultimately end up joining the “good guys” in the end. Oh yeah, And they also use a certain blue lightsaber for a few seconds at the very least as well as foolishly take on a dark side user who they are clearly no match for. All of that is 100 percent proven fact from officially released material, The rest is guesswork. End of story.
I only said he was the ST’s Han Solo but you have jumped to your own conclusions once again if you think they are following the same blueprint as the other previous trilogies. Obi-Wan was the Han of the PT and he doesn’t die either nor goes through everything that Solo did in IV-VI, Just because they fit an archetype does not mean that they are clones. You might have had a viable point if Lucas was running things but he no longer is anymore.
Really? Shmi Skywalker and Yoda are no one? Might want to watch the films again with your eyes open and brain turned on. To clarify more for you, Shmi got a billing credit in the TPM poster and is pretty much the catalyst for Anakin being tempted by the dark side and Yoda is the last living link to the Old Republic after Obi-Wan dies as well as taught him pretty much everything he knows in the ways of the force. Not exactly minor characters at all and if Yoda is not a mentor figure then I have no idea who the fuck is,
It’s “usually” is not a word to base a statement on. Lucas is a very different storyteller than those running the show now and to emphasize that they pretty much through out most of his ideas for this one. They’ve had no real contact with him about this since the merger started priving his lack of influence. I would agree had he been the writer/director as well as still controlled Lucasfilm like originally planned but that’s all gone out the window now.
I’ll be happy to soon as you start to do the same yourself and re-read what you write before posting.
I’mma keep this post simple.
1. You said “listed at the top of all OT posters.” That’s synonymous with TOP BILLING, at least the way it’s worded. It isn’t hard. If you meant to be accurate, you’d say “listed second” on all OT posters. But that wouldn’t help the “Finn is Han” point considering every last new character in the ST is listed somewhere after the original three main characters.
2.True that Leia vanished and that Jar Jar had a lot of screen time; but I’m sure if either of them were expected to appear in every location known to be in the movie, we wouldn’t be dumb enough to assume they barely appear in the film. One thing about actors is, they only hang around for their parts. Why would an actor be there for the entire production if they were barely in it? And we know Boyega was there for the entire time because we have these things called cell phones and the internet which all but confirm it.
3.”Getting your ass kicked by a creepy revisionist Vader fanboy with a shoddy built saber doesn’t strike me plot integral.” <——-You. Do you now see why I think you're saying he's unimportant? I say Finn is probably more important because Han solo was never on a movie poster with a friken lightsaber–heck, he wasn't even on the original poster at all– and fights with one. But you try to diminish the importance of this big moment.
4. That former stormtrooper stuff about Han. . .all EU which is now called Legends by Disney and was never taken seriously by Lucas in the first place. Not only that, but Finn isn't wearing ST gear to rescue someone. He's wearing it because he IS an ST. Your entire attempt at this analogy is mischaracterized. Han was already on Tatooine before he helped rescue Leia(it wasn't botched) Was hired by the main heroes, and stayed for the money until he joined the cause at the end. And please. Cutting open a tauntaun ain't the same thing as using a lightsaber against a dark side force user.
5.Or maybe your analogy just doesn't fit. You say it yourself. Lucas ain't writing this. Which is an ironic point to make considering you're trying to say that Finn is the "Han" of the story to the point he doesn't get his own leitmotif. Another weird point because Han's theme is his love theme with Leia. Jeez, did you even think about this?
6. I knew you would do this. That's why I put markers around the word "main." MAIN CHARACTERS, as in played by the principal actors. This isn't hard.
7.If Lucas is so different a story teller then why are you trying to mirror Finn's part to Han's in the OT? This entire argument is about an attempt of yours to fit the round peg of Finn into the square hole that is Han Solo, despite contrary evidence.
8. Don't bother re-reading what you write before posting. Scrap this crap and start over from the foundation.
1. You said “listed at the top of all OT posters.” That’s synonymous with TOP BILLING, at least the way it’s worded. It isn’t hard.
2.True that Leia vanished and that Jar Jar had a lot of screen time; but I’m sure if either of them were expected to appear in every location known to be in the movie, we wouldn’t be dumb enough to assume they barely appear in the film. One thing about actors is, they only hang around for their parts. Why would an actor be there for the entire production if they were barely in it?
3.”Getting your ass kicked by a creepy revisionist Vader fanboy with a shoddy built saber doesn’t strike me plot integral.” <——-You. Do you now see why I think you're saying he's unimportant? I say Finn is probably more important because Han solo was never on a movie poster with a friken lightsaber–heck, he wasn't even on the original poster at all– and fights with one. But you try to diminish the importance of this big moment for Finn to make him fit a role.
4. Your entire attempt at this analogy is mischaracterized. Han was already on Tatooine before he helped rescue Leia(it wasn't botched) Was hired by the main heroes, and stayed for the money until he joined the cause at the end. And please. Cutting open a tauntaun ain't the same thing as using a lightsaber against a dark side force user.
5.Or maybe your analogy just doesn't fit. You say it yourself. Lucas ain't writing this. Which is an ironic point to make considering you're trying to say that Finn is the "Han" of the story to the point he doesn't get his own leitmotif. Another weird point because Han's theme is his love theme with Leia. Jeez, did you even think about this? At the end of the day If Finn is nothing like Han why bother trying to line his character up with Han?
6. I knew you would do this. That's why I put markers around the word "main." MAIN CHARACTERS, as in played by the principal actors. This isn't hard.
7.If Lucas having no part in this is such a big deal to the argument then why is this entire argument an attempt of yours to fit the round peg of Finn into the square hole that is Han Solo, despite all the contrary evidence? You're undercutting your own premise now. On one hand you say "Finn is Han" and point out all the supposed similarities, but when things don't fit, you invoke the "Lucas isn't writing this" clause. with that line of logic I can make Rey or Poe sound like Han when I want to. Can't you see there's no point to arguing this way?
8. Don't bother re-reading what you write before posting. Scrap this crap and start over from the foundation.
1. Have you ever seen the poster? There are 3 or 4 tiers of billing and Harrison is at the top of it but not in THE top spot. Sharapova is in the top 5 list but she’s not number one anymore.
2. Mark is not supposed to be in this one very much either and he was there for a good awhile. The trailer also shows Finn sounded on Starkiller Base too which could mean he’s out of it ala Obi-Wan at the end of II or at the start of III during the duels. The TIE is nothing like the X-Wing either far as controls go meaning he’s likely grounded during the big dogfight at the end. Luke picked up the T-65 fast but only because Incom also made the T-16 which he grew up flying. Also Artoo has been to nearly every Star Wars planet but his part in the PT greatly pales in comparison to the OT.
3. The poster is irrelevant as Maz is practically in the center of that thing and you don’t see Lupita’s name anywhere on it. He was not on the original one because they wanted to focus on the fantasy/family aspect of the film hence why Vader/The Droids were there instead. Han was on the re-release and special edition posters though. He also used a saber in Empire but it hardly makes him the main character of the film. Other than practical effects, The main marketing theme of this is girl power meaning it’s going to be Rey’s film. If he was her love interest then that could be another story but as you said he seems to be getting one in the next film and not this one.
4. He was but like him was also on a desert planet in the course of the film and the atempt was botched several times along the way (“we’re all fine here”) not to mention getting pinned down in the detention block where they would have been captured had it not been for Princess Leia. Nothing about it went smoothly, Only reason they even got away was because Vader let them. He never used it against a dark side user but he did fire at one with his blaster at point blank range
5. Han did have a theme though but it was never used in the final film. Like I said Obi-Wan basically fullfills Han’s role in the PT but that doesn’t mean he’s still exactly like him or Finn. Which is basically the role of second banana to the main hero always getting in at the wrong end during scrapes that they only get by through the skin of their teeth and not because they were the superior fighter.
6. Main is a credit on the poster which August and Oz both were and they also both play pivitol roles in the overall saga itself. They are not the primary characters but they are part of the main cast otherwise they would not have lines or be named outside the toys. Not to mention they both had eulogies of sorts afterward about them, Not like they were Greedo, Dak, or Corpsey The Ewok where it’s quickly shuffled aside like it never happened or has no bearing on the plot/saga.
7. He is not Han literally, He’s a Han archetype much like Obi-Wan. Big difference there. It just supports my point even more because that means he is probably not going to go through exacty what Han did in the OT or Obi-Wan in the PT when he was writing it. Of all the principal cast, He is the one most like him for the reasons I said up above. Nobody else comes close in fitting that role right down to the jacket, boots, and blaster. They even show him in what looks to be a comm console in the first trailer. Hardly unintentional there.
8. Just because you refuse to see what I’m saying does not mean it’s not there in plain sight for everybody else.
1. The poster tier is meaningless. In the world of billing having your name first or separate from everyone else is what’s desired. Just google all the weird things agents do to make their client stand out on bills. That being said, you just could have done a way better job wording it.
Anyway, I had this long winded reply worked out but I ran across this and thought it would put this whole thing to bed better than anything I can say.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeJjNJuPj_A
1. It really depends on the series but so far the top spot is for the star of the film in the Star Wars saga hence why Mark Hamill got top billing in the OT ones.
Well, They are doing it with Rogue One as well since clearly Felicity is the star of that one. I’m pretty sure Daisy will get the top spot on the VIII and IX poster too when those are out. I have a feeling Captain Phasma will make it till the very end as well. Plus there’s the aforementioned Finn love interest in the next one, So I think they really are serious about equaling the male to female main character ratio. Some think Finn’s love interest is Han’s Daughter right now but if not then that’s another female character to balance things out.
He does have his own theme but as you said so does Han with the love theme as his character is so tied to Leia. Same reason why the droids got their own one together in Empire. They’d get their own individual one too if they weren’t two of a kind or a couple. Not like Chewbacca who never got either since he’s more of a supporting role.
My point about the “girl power” marketing campaign is that it isn’t about VII specifically. It’s about the property and franchise, and getting more girls to like it, basically. They’re trying to get that Hunger Games recognition among the females of our community. They even have promotions in make up much in the same vein as what HG did for Catching Fire. So even if every lead character was male, I guarantee you they’d do this. It’s just so much easier when you actually have women in the story.
This debate was whether or not Finn has his own theme. We now know he does. There’s not much else to debate.
It is market driven but they are also planning on integrating more major female characters into the film and trilogy too. They now have female Stormtroopers (not just Phasma) and they retconned it so that they have always been in the saga from the start even though they have not been seen onscreen yet that we know of. They have an all female Ghostbusters film coming out next year and are working on an all-female Ocean’s 11 as well, So it wouldn’t be that much of a surprise to see an all female led Star Wars spinoff or having only one token main male character in the next two episodes.
He does but like I said so did Han (though it was not just his). Someone else said Williams only gives themes to the major characters in the saga but that’s not always a rule as The Death Star, Jawas, and Ewoks got them too. Plus, His musical style is always evolving as well to the point where he is more generous with his themes than he was when he first started. There were not all that many in the OT but quite a bit in the PT and probably even more in the ST. Also, A lot of his themes like the Droids one, Lando’s, or Boba Fett’s got abandoned in future films. Even Anakin’s theme (who was the absolute main character of the PT) mostly disappears after TPM and is kind of substituted for the Padme/Anakin love theme and later the Imperal March.
“Completed with more than enough time to spare”
What makes you say that. Usually movies are worked on and worked on right till release, even if Williams has done his last scoring session.
It’s not his word’s it’s JJ’s words.
I’m assuming Drew Struzan didn’t do that one….
Cool that they got to meet him but a little odd since far as I know the OT/PT never did. Still no word on if they are doing a Duel Of The Fates/Across The Stars/Battle Of The Heroes style music video yet either? I’d watch it even if I have to turn on accursed eMpTV.
That “depiction” of Luke on the image for this article makes him look like a little kid. Awful.
That picture was drawn in 1998 by John WIlliams’ 10 year old autistic granddaughter with colored pencil’s………Feel free to post some pictures you have drawn of Luke Skywalker when you were 10 years old and let us see what an artistic genius you were..
Actually it was painted by onenine72 on Deviantart….and Luke does look a bit girlie 🙂